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:Datamation: Doors Still Closed to Open Source Databases
Datamation: Doors Still Closed to Open Source Databases
Jul 6, 2001, 22 :00 UTC (39 Talkback[s]) (6362 reads)
(Other stories by Charlie Garry)

"Through 2005 and beyond, we believe Open Source Databases (OSDBs) will be a non-factor in the database management system (DBMS) market, relegated to non-critical tasks (such as clickstream logging and directories)...."

"To achieve large-scale adoption of OSDBs, IT organizations must be convinced of a solid support environment. In the proprietary world, numerous consulting firms, both large and small, are ready to help an organization. DBMS vendors either offer their own consulting services or partner with certified providers worldwide."

"The same cannot be said of the OSDB market. Several companies have formed to provide support and services around open source databases. Companies such as Great Bridge (PostgreSQL), NuSphere, and AbriaSoft (MySQL) are following in the footsteps of Linux companies like Red Hat. The problem is that no one has proven a business can be profitable and remain viable long term by selling support and services around open source software. In fact, these very organizations are often at the mercy of the informal open source communities that are responsible for bug fixes, features, and release schedules. This uncertainty will further add to a potential customer's angst over adopting an OSDB."

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 Talkback(s)Name Date
The doors are closed for "open source" databases?!  More like the doors are clos ...   Hah!   
db  Jul 6, 2001, 22:14:08
But I just can't put my finger on it. ...   I'm sure I've heard this before...   
jason king  Jul 6, 2001, 22:19:54
More of the same FUD.  I thought it came from Gartner, it sure sounds like their ...   don't waste your time!   
denis  Jul 6, 2001, 22:26:39
Any company with any size has the IT support structure that can deal with the co ...   Not likely   
George  Jul 6, 2001, 22:30:20
What stops consulting firms to spring around open source DBs?  Why can't the ...   If I was an investor, I wouldn't trust Datamation   
Leo  Jul 6, 2001, 22:37:43
Weren't these the same folks who said in 1998 that Linux would never achieve ...   Deja Goo...   
Nicholas Donovan  Jul 6, 2001, 22:41:25
The quote "In fact, these very organizations are often at the mercy of the infor ...   Stupid People   
Jonathan Bartlett  Jul 6, 2001, 22:50:59
Since when is Microsoft a major database vendor? And, is it just me or
does thi ...   Huh?   
Bob for Apples  Jul 6, 2001, 22:49:57
I think I've heard this analysis regarding other products somewhere...

Al ...   Deja Vu   
Me  Jul 6, 2001, 22:54:28
Most companies use less than 10% of the features of a large database system like ...   Marketing not feature sets.   
bobzibub  Jul 6, 2001, 23:04:49
...I predict that the Meta Group will be a non-factor in any competent technical ...   Through 2005 and beyond...   
bleezer  Jul 6, 2001, 23:18:52
This may be a stupid question, but what is the advantage of using these function ...   triggers and user-defined functions   
tve  Jul 6, 2001, 23:35:44
...about going with a "big vendor" like Micros~1 and Oracle is
that IT managers ...   The ONLY thing useful...   
John  Jul 6, 2001, 23:51:10
I found this gem on Meta Group's advanced search.


Linux: A Corporate Co ...   bah   
Tim Dion  Jul 6, 2001, 23:56:08
Which company will be taken to the cleaners first?

Oracle or Microsoft? ...   Any bets?   
george3  Jul 7, 2001, 00:02:41
May, 1999

"According to Steve Kleynhans, vice president of the Meta Group&#39 ...   More Meta Group idioticy   
Tim Dion  Jul 7, 2001, 00:05:55
 but what is the advantage of using these functions?  

speed is part of it (a ...   Re: triggers and user-defined functions   
feldspar  Jul 7, 2001, 00:08:57
I work for one of the largest companies in the world and I see MySQL databases p ...   That's a surprise to me   
Don Brock  Jul 7, 2001, 01:14:42
I wonder if we can get Gartner and Meta Group/Datamation to do forecasting on th ...   Bets....   
g.r.r.  Jul 7, 2001, 01:34:35
Just use SAPDB, ohhh wait - thats no good either I guess.  Like
what would SAP  ...   What a load of BS   
Ozric  Jul 7, 2001, 01:52:10
 I think I've heard this analysis regarding other products somewhere...

T ...   Re: Deja Vu   
John M. Owen  Jul 7, 2001, 02:37:21
Companies such as Great Bridge (PostgreSQL), NuSphere, and AbriaSoft (MySQL) are ...   following the footsteps of RH   
james  Jul 7, 2001, 05:43:21
 Open source database companies will not be able to compete with the price,
per ...   more junk   
max  Jul 7, 2001, 08:18:21
Closed source people (minds) speak about open/free source!?

They are free to  ...   Closed source people (midns) speak about open/free source ...   
Pinko  Jul 7, 2001, 09:35:47
The real question is not on availability and support but on who owns your data?
 ...   Who owns your data?   
Franck Martin  Jul 7, 2001, 10:39:52
Of course it needs more than MySQL on Linux for your
multinational-enterprise-w ...   Not everything is 'Enterprise'...   
Christian Vogel  Jul 7, 2001, 10:50:11
  Isn't it a better idea to perform these operations 
  outside of the data ...   Re: Re: triggers and user-defined functions   
BrianB  Jul 7, 2001, 13:56:14
 speed is part of it (as using triggers, stored procedures, etc can definitely s ...   Re: Re: triggers and user-defined functions   
Rob  Jul 7, 2001, 14:28:30
Is there any doubt that these kind of groups are merely PR folks whose 'rese ...   Re: don't waste your time!   
ME  Jul 7, 2001, 16:17:26
These guys do not really know what their are talking about.

I have worked in  ...   Real life applications   
Jurgen Defurne  Jul 7, 2001, 16:22:12
They're referring to Red Hat's history as a Linux company, not a DBMS ve ...   Re: following the footsteps of RH   
Derek  Jul 7, 2001, 19:21:48
You put triggers into a database for the same 2 reasons you put drivers into a O ...   Re: triggers and user-defined functions   
kop  Jul 8, 2001, 00:52:59
I think it's interesting that an open source database at the heart of close
 ...   Funny how no one knows about SAP DB.   
emes  Jul 8, 2001, 03:27:31
..then we've got it made. Support comes with time. It's very difficult t ...   If support is the largest problem...   
Michael Bacarella  Jul 8, 2001, 05:12:18
 You put triggers into a database for the same 2 reasons you put drivers into a  ...   Re: Re: triggers and user-defined functions   
tve  Jul 8, 2001, 05:36:10
It is really good design that makes a db really stable and scalable. ...   You are absolutly right   
Bernhard  Jul 8, 2001, 13:58:31
 You put triggers into a database for the same 2 reasons you put drivers into a  ...   Re: Re: triggers and user-defined functions   
Ian Tester  Jul 8, 2001, 15:24:39
reading/making predictions from their "crystal balls".
big consulting firm tech ...   just another consulting firm...   
xunil ung  Jul 9, 2001, 03:08:19
While I can buy the idea of Intel based databases, Windows-based?
Microsoft is  ...   Wintel?   
Ed Craig  Jul 9, 2001, 15:36:48
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